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alastair — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:44:50 GMT

can there be a server related area?

i have good experience with server 2000 + 2003 so could help out alot there. i also have issues that i cant find an immediate solution to so it would be good to have somewhere to turn to so i could ask advice and give advice.

its just that im losing interest in the forum since its the same stuff being posted mostly and i have better things to do.

Message Edited by alastair on 24-09-2009 02:44 PM

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riddler — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:44:23 GMT

Having a Small Buserver myself one would benefit from this area as we do not have an IT chap in our company and they are expensive. I realise however that the support on this forum would be limited as some server issues are complex and will require said IT chap. I would however enjoy somewhere to gain a bit more understanding about servers and how to fix minor issues.

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dave — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:44:39 GMT

I agree. We need a forum for more advanced users.

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Kirok — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 03:11:34 GMT

I've seen the odd advanced topic but yeah I tend to troll alot looking for stuff thats either difficult or hasn't been answered.

Some sort of forum for server stuff or advanced setups would be nice.

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Mohammed — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:05:37 GMT

Your prayers are answered.

I have a small network of 10 computers linked to SBS 2003 through a switch. It has DHCP and the computers have been set up through Active Directory.

When I link them to BT hub. I gain the Internet but lose the internal network.

Question is how do I successfully have an internal network controlled through the SBS 2003 and also have internet access using the BT hub?

Your help will be greatly appreciated.

mohammed

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alastair — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:46:54 GMT

first off theres something misconfigured. before answering this it would help if you answer this.

do you use 5 or 13 static ips from bt and have assigned one to the server? if so then by putting the static ip to the server lan card it effectively cuts out local traffic to the server since it has a public ip not a local one.

if its 5 or 13 you will need either to get BT to change you to a single ip so you can use a local ip on the server like the other pcs and use port forwarding to allow internet traffic to the server (if necessary)

if that is not the scenario then what is doing DHCP on the network? the server or the BT business hub?

it should be the server. you can turn off dhcp in the GUI of the 2700, specify the ip and default gateway etc on the servers NW card and then make sure your DHCP scope on the serve is set up so that it:

gives out addresses in the same range your LAN is using i.e 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.253 (i'd normally have server on ip 192.168.1.1)
uses 192.168.1.254 as the router address
uses 192.168.1.1 as the DNS and WINS server

if you do that it will help alot with your internal networking and DNS resolution.

let me know the story and i will gladly advise

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Mohammed — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:14:02 GMT

Hi Alastair

Thanks. We havent subscribed to Static IP. It the server or the HUB allocated IP automatically.

Do i need 2 lan cards in the server. one to the Hub the other to the Switch or can I plug stratight to switch both the server and the HUB?

If 2 lan cards in the server which is the gateway? the on the connect to switch or the one connecting to hub?

many thanks

Mohammed

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alastair — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:29:41 GMT

ok i suggest the internal network is looked at.

is the server AND hub doing dhcp or one of them? which one?

and what ip range is being given out if its the server doing dhcp

Message Edited by alastair on 30-09-2009 08:29 AM

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Mohammed — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:23:01 GMT

at the moment both have the DHCP active. I understand that there should only be one active, but which one do you recommend to use the BT hub or SBS 2003 one. I wil then switch one off and start again.

many thanks

Mohammed

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alastair — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:26:52 GMT

i recommend DHCP is run by the server. in my prev post it has the scope options.

like i said specify the server tcp ip address as 192.168.1.1 and DG as 192.168.1.254 (DNS as 192.168.1.1 and alt as 194.74.65.68) then turn off dhcp in the 2700.

then create that dhcp scope.

Message Edited by alastair on 30-09-2009 09:26 AM

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Fiona — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:15:01 GMT

Hi Alastair

Thank you for your suggestion for a new board for advanced or server issues. We have reviewed this, and have decided it would be more beneficial to keep the number of boards to a minimum and have all questions relating to networks continue to be posted in the 'Broadband and Internet' board, Server questions could also be posted here or in 'Other Products and Services'.

Thanks Again.

Kind Regards

Fiona

BT Business Forum Moderator

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alastair — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:40:16 GMT

fair enough. i just thought that if there was a section for it more people would post with more interesting issues.

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Kirok — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:43:35 GMT

I agree, I mean most people likely to talk about servers et al really won't post in the other forums for fear going off topic etc.

On the subject of the amount of sub-forums haven't they sprawled a fair bit already?

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alastair — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:52:58 GMT

hmmm, i need to find a new forum then.

Experts-Exchange is a viable option but i dont like the look and feel of the site so haven't bothered with it... yet

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Kirok — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:22:47 GMT

Yeah I tried Experts Exchange wasn't really a fan, tried techguy also. It had a few advanced things.

I've been meaning to check out the Zen and Plusnet forums and find out what they're like.

If you do find anything that looks good, let me know.

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alastair — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:56:31 GMT

ok. 🙂 same to you

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spank — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:18:01 GMT

Experts Exchange is probably the best support site on the net just now. Only problem I have with it is that you need to pay for a subsrciption to be able to post which sucks.

But for solutions it's awesome.

I did manage to get a free subscription when they where doing an offer ages ago and they haven't bothered cancelling it, yay for me.

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alastair — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:58:54 GMT

i have a login but as i said the site isnt attractive

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Kirok — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:18:55 GMT

My problem with Experts Exchange is its not really a back and forth or discussion. I get the feeling I'm doing the job of an idiot IT guys who really shouldn't have whatever job they have.

How does someone get a job in IT without having any idea how to do their job duties? Its one thing to ask for help troubleshooting a particular issue, but it's quite another to ask how to even start working on a major project or for a step by step guide.

Thats the feeling I get from it anyway.

As a deeper issue, is the expanding presence of online tech support sites and forums responsible for keeping the uneducated and inexperienced IT professional wanna-be, ever-man-and-his-dog-can-do-IT, I-use-MSN-how-hard-can-this-be IT guy employed? Do they know just enough to fool the employer at the interview?

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alastair — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:15:20 GMT

thats my pet peev too. i know im not all knowing but "IT guys" are just a bunch of cowboys