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    <title>topic Re: Strange line/router behaviour in Archive</title>
    <link>https://business.forums.bt.com/t5/Archive/Strange-line-router-behaviour/m-p/72967#M8254</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Since no replies have been received, can anyone suggest a forum or other location on the internet where I might get an answer to this problem?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2014 21:07:21 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>segillum</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2014-07-07T21:07:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Strange line/router behaviour</title>
      <link>https://business.forums.bt.com/t5/Archive/Strange-line-router-behaviour/m-p/72879#M8253</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Greetings. I'm new here (and new to BT) so please bear with me!&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;I recently decided to change from Demon to BT on the basis that BT is now offering FTTC in our area. It's a&amp;nbsp;two-stage process; we moved from Demon ADSL to BT ADSL last week and following some delays in the order process we expect to move to FTTC in a week or two. BT has supplied a Business Hub 3 router to replace the elderly Thomson 580 and this is connected via the test socket. There's nothing else connected to the line at all. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Generally speaking this&amp;nbsp;Demon/Thomson ADSL setup has provided very stable (if slow) connections at about 25-2600kbit/s and worked well for a number of years. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Having moved to BT and changed the router, I thought at first that the line must be heavily contended. Internet access slowed down to the point of unusability every few hours and e-mail access was so slow that the servers timed out! Looking at the router stats using RouterStats Hub suggests something a little strange and I'd greatly value some insight into what's happening. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;The downstream noise margin is very consistent at 19dB. Following a router reboot, the upstream noise margin starts out at about 7dB and degrades gradually over a period of about 12hr to about 3dB. The connection speed remains constant at about 2625kbit/s during this period. By the time the noise margin has reduced, pages are extremely slow to load and e-mail is frequently subject to server timeouts.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Rebooting the router immediately restores the indicated upstream noise margin to about 7dB and normal internet and e-mail operation is restored. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;The line does not seem particularly prone to FEC or CRC errors and the upstream and downstream loss is consistent. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;I'm sure that rebooting the router every twelve hours or so isn't ideal from the DLM point of view but if I don't do so our internet and e-mail become so slow as to be unusable. The odd thing is that the indicated connection speed never changes. It's been sitting at 2625kbit/s since I re-booted at about 0740 this morning but the noise margin is currently 3.8dB, having started at 7.2dB this morning. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000; font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Can any kind soul please explain what's happening?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2014 18:44:57 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>segillum</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-06-27T18:44:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Strange line/router behaviour</title>
      <link>https://business.forums.bt.com/t5/Archive/Strange-line-router-behaviour/m-p/72967#M8254</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Since no replies have been received, can anyone suggest a forum or other location on the internet where I might get an answer to this problem?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2014 21:07:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://business.forums.bt.com/t5/Archive/Strange-line-router-behaviour/m-p/72967#M8254</guid>
      <dc:creator>segillum</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-07T21:07:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Strange line/router behaviour</title>
      <link>https://business.forums.bt.com/t5/Archive/Strange-line-router-behaviour/m-p/72975#M8255</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;This forum appears to be mostly dead, no replies on my thread either yet and no MAC (as time of posting this reply).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Try kitz or thinkbroadband. Both are good resourceful forums with knowledgeable members. Googling will lead you to their websites.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2014 23:43:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://business.forums.bt.com/t5/Archive/Strange-line-router-behaviour/m-p/72975#M8255</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ixel</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-07T23:43:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Strange line/router behaviour</title>
      <link>https://business.forums.bt.com/t5/Archive/Strange-line-router-behaviour/m-p/72981#M8256</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yes, this forum seems to be more or less dormant. Which is odd considering that its counterpart dealing with home and private users seems to be full of switched-on and very helpful people.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'll try Kitz.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2014 07:20:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://business.forums.bt.com/t5/Archive/Strange-line-router-behaviour/m-p/72981#M8256</guid>
      <dc:creator>segillum</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-07-08T07:20:52Z</dc:date>
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