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    <title>topic SOGEA Broadband speed highly variable - is there a wiring issue in Broadband</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;We have a building which has a 100 pair copper cable from the street cabinet&amp;nbsp; which is 300m from the DP point in a riser cabinet.&amp;nbsp; This is jumpered across krone strips to a 100 pair which runs up the riser to the comms room on the 3rd floor.&amp;nbsp; From here, there are 3 x 50 pair copper cables down to each floor (ground, 1st &amp;amp; 2nd)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We have 20 DEL lines working fine.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We then have 7 x SOGEA Broadband lines which follow the same cabling route to the 3rd floor comms room and then get distributed to the floors below.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When installed, and subsequently, the Openreach testing shows that these lines should all deliver 80/20.&amp;nbsp; However, when we add a BT router to the lines we start to get vary variable results.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;The best we have got is 77/19 which ties in with the line tests that Openreach tests indicate.&amp;nbsp; However we have seen significant drop off with some lines dropping to 5/2.&amp;nbsp; We have also seen 5/19 which is first for all involved as we have not seen higher up speed than down before.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;To try and resolve the issue we jumpered in master sockets for all 7 Broadband lines in the 3rd floor comms room and while it is not the BT DP, it is the closest workable are.&amp;nbsp; Most tests provide 74/19 on the routers here.&amp;nbsp; When we move down a floor, we drop to 50/19.&amp;nbsp; This seems quite a drop off for perhaps a max of an additional 10m.&amp;nbsp; Also, the down speed drops off but the up speed has stayed the same. Go to the ground floor and we get lower speed, down to 7/11.&amp;nbsp; Again odd to see the up speed being higher than the down.&amp;nbsp; Leave it a while and the speed changes to 5/2.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;One engineer suggested that one of the wires used for jumpering across the krone strips looked a little thin - but we have replaced it with no change.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This has led us to question whether we have an issue with cabling or if we are doing something wrong with having a master socked jumpered in parallel&amp;nbsp; with the other connections.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have posted a diagram below which shows the setup and the point where we switch from the twisted pairs&amp;nbsp; to the structured cabling.&amp;nbsp; Have we done something wrong and is there something about the SOGEA broadband that is different that is causing this.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We have tested all sorts of scenarios but can't seem to avoid this significant drop off.&amp;nbsp; We have also on one occasion punched in a master socket to the DP point where the wiring enters the building thus removing all other remaining wiring and got 18/9.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is it possible to have too thick a cable that might cause this (the link from the floor coms room to the patch panel) or is having a RJ45 to BT socket adaptor on the same line in parallel to a BT master socket causing an issue?&amp;nbsp; I have an Openreach engineer and another telephone engineer scratching their heads on this one.&amp;nbsp; The only consistency is that the line test from the street cabinet to the building always tests 80/20.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="BT to router connectivity diagram.jpg" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://business.forums.bt.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1914iD555BFF91B71FB46/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="BT to router connectivity diagram.jpg" alt="BT to router connectivity diagram.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2024 09:23:30 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>P-J</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2024-01-18T09:23:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>SOGEA Broadband speed highly variable - is there a wiring issue</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;We have a building which has a 100 pair copper cable from the street cabinet&amp;nbsp; which is 300m from the DP point in a riser cabinet.&amp;nbsp; This is jumpered across krone strips to a 100 pair which runs up the riser to the comms room on the 3rd floor.&amp;nbsp; From here, there are 3 x 50 pair copper cables down to each floor (ground, 1st &amp;amp; 2nd)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We have 20 DEL lines working fine.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We then have 7 x SOGEA Broadband lines which follow the same cabling route to the 3rd floor comms room and then get distributed to the floors below.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When installed, and subsequently, the Openreach testing shows that these lines should all deliver 80/20.&amp;nbsp; However, when we add a BT router to the lines we start to get vary variable results.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;The best we have got is 77/19 which ties in with the line tests that Openreach tests indicate.&amp;nbsp; However we have seen significant drop off with some lines dropping to 5/2.&amp;nbsp; We have also seen 5/19 which is first for all involved as we have not seen higher up speed than down before.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;To try and resolve the issue we jumpered in master sockets for all 7 Broadband lines in the 3rd floor comms room and while it is not the BT DP, it is the closest workable are.&amp;nbsp; Most tests provide 74/19 on the routers here.&amp;nbsp; When we move down a floor, we drop to 50/19.&amp;nbsp; This seems quite a drop off for perhaps a max of an additional 10m.&amp;nbsp; Also, the down speed drops off but the up speed has stayed the same. Go to the ground floor and we get lower speed, down to 7/11.&amp;nbsp; Again odd to see the up speed being higher than the down.&amp;nbsp; Leave it a while and the speed changes to 5/2.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;One engineer suggested that one of the wires used for jumpering across the krone strips looked a little thin - but we have replaced it with no change.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This has led us to question whether we have an issue with cabling or if we are doing something wrong with having a master socked jumpered in parallel&amp;nbsp; with the other connections.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have posted a diagram below which shows the setup and the point where we switch from the twisted pairs&amp;nbsp; to the structured cabling.&amp;nbsp; Have we done something wrong and is there something about the SOGEA broadband that is different that is causing this.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We have tested all sorts of scenarios but can't seem to avoid this significant drop off.&amp;nbsp; We have also on one occasion punched in a master socket to the DP point where the wiring enters the building thus removing all other remaining wiring and got 18/9.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is it possible to have too thick a cable that might cause this (the link from the floor coms room to the patch panel) or is having a RJ45 to BT socket adaptor on the same line in parallel to a BT master socket causing an issue?&amp;nbsp; I have an Openreach engineer and another telephone engineer scratching their heads on this one.&amp;nbsp; The only consistency is that the line test from the street cabinet to the building always tests 80/20.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="BT to router connectivity diagram.jpg" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://business.forums.bt.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1914iD555BFF91B71FB46/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="BT to router connectivity diagram.jpg" alt="BT to router connectivity diagram.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;DIV class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2024 09:23:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>P-J</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-01-18T09:23:30Z</dc:date>
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