I followed every step proscribed and would the **bleep** thing work? No it bl**dy well would not! But it did in the end and that was only after I changed my 'user name' from - for example - 'john.smith' to my email address 'john.smith@btconnect.com' - then it worked. That was not in any of the instructions.
1. Open Mozilla Thunderbird
2. Go to > Tools > Account settings
3. Spot the email account name/address you need to modify (in the panel on the left of the pop-up) and click on 'server settings' beneath that address identified.
4. change the Server Name to: pop.outlook.com
5. change the port to: 995
6. change the User Name to: your.name@btconnect.com
7. Under security settings change connection security to show: SSL/TLS
That should get you reading your mail; setting correctly for the 'Incoming Mail Server'
For the Outgoing Server (SMPT) click on the email account name/address you are modifying - in the panel on the left of the pop-up immediately above the 'server settings' you have been working from. At the bottom of the Account Settings section you will see: Outgoing Server (SMPT) and a drop down. The chances are you will NOT see the service you require! So you need to set-up an outgoing server.
Now here is the interesting point. If you have a BT broadband I have no reason to think you cannot just follow the BT instructions for setting up the SMPT outgoing server as instructed. But I can not enjoy this simplicity because I do NOT have an O2 broadband which means I must send my BT connect email via my O2 broadband's relay server.
So if you are struggling to get this aspect configured this will very probably be the issue if your internet service is not with BT. My having BT email addresses are a legacy of having a BT dial-up account! (dark days)
In the same vein if you have an iPhone and do not have BT broadband you will find that when you are at home and your iPhone is using wifi (and not its 3G) if you try to send a email from the iPhone it will not send. That is because the iPhone is trying to send a BT email via a non BT broadband. The solution is to set-up an account on the iPhone that includes the details of the relay SMPT server, then if you try to send your BT mail it will default to each alternative outgoing server set-up until it tries the relay server of your home broadband provider.
Hope that is of help to those who may be struggling with the same issues as I have.
Regards
This is such a nice post. Thanks a lot for sharing.
Typo!
Should read: I do NOT have a BT broadband service which means I must send my BT connect email via my O2 broadband's relay server.
Another little point! Monzila Thunderbird specific I guess .....
Now I have some further @btconnect.com addresses to manage the changover of I also note the following:
When in
> tools > account setting
and having amended the relevant account's 'User Name': from john.smith to john.smith@btconnect.com
(and all the other changes detailed in my post ie: Server Name = pop.outlook.com Port = 995 Connection Security = SSL/TLS)
You will find that following your clicking the OK button at the bottom, to save the changes you have made, the amendments you have made to your User Name on the Server Setting section will have had the effect of changing the Account Name on the Account Settings to incorporate the new 'User Name'.
I do not think it will now effect the transmission of email but it will mean you endup with some muddled account name if you don't go back an sort the names out - I recommend making them the email address.
It looks to me like there has been a swap around between what the old BT connect server was looking at and what the new outlook server is looking at - Account Name and User Name having interchanged in significance. Who knows? it is a big mystery to me and I have been battling to configure my computers to do email since about 1989!
Do as you are told by BT & Micro$oft.
You can't expect them to waste time with an obviously recidivist person who does not use Micro$oft products
Doesn't EVERYone use Outlook, IE9, Office (what ever the latest version is called) and windows smartphones.
If we don't now, with M$ looking after the emails I have a feeling we all soon will.
Well Turbinedrive. I think you touch on an interesting subject area here - M$ looking after the emails.
It does beg questioning why an organisation of the apparent might of BT would 'submit' to a Microsoft solution. I guess it is a financial no-brainier for BT and, let's face it: the old web-mail offering from BT was clunky from the outset; now its not just historical, its hysterical.
Of cause we can be cautioned that now every email sent and received via BT will be 'open-access' for the CIA and Mossad to trawl through with impunity; looking for keywords and profiling the users without reference to any EU/UK legal niceties - (not that I have imagined for a moment it has been significantly different before).
Those Dummkopf who accept as sufficient the Newspeak meme 'if you are doing nothing wrong you have nothing to fear' suffer from a radical deficit of practical imagination.
For one there is commercially sensitive information. The CIA is first the sharp-end of a business firm (and secondly a murderous criminal enterprise). If one expects to be able to communicate via email with any higher level of security than if you copied-in Langley whenever one sends - for example - a bank password to your assistant. Or a sell instruction to your stockbroker. Or an offer of cash to your builder. E-mail and postcards have the same level of security clearance. Wake-up folks!
If the UK Inland Revenue commissioned the services of an operation that could detect, with tracking and trawling algorithm software tools, people who exchange emails that reflected large commercial transactions would that be a legitimate tool for fighting large-scale fraud and crime?
Here is the thing about tax. The higher tax is the tougher the enforcement must be. The tougher the enforcement the higher the tax can be. At what level of taxation would one suddenly decide; hang-on this is not legitimate? If tax avoidance was imposable would one really think tax would go down?
How about ones political opinions. Would one be happy for anybody to know which news services one subscribed to? It may well appear silly to think that unless you are looking for instructions of how to act as a wrecker your are going to be of no security interest. Well I sincerely hope that is so. And I sincerely hope that continues to be so for ever and ever.
The rules we make for today have to sustain us in whatever political environment exists tomorrow. If we have a growing political tyranny - say for example the UK handover our 'sovereign autonomy' lock, stock and barrel to the EU (which is endlessly happening, step by step, as we all sleep) and it happens that the majority of the EU nations fancy another session of leather-boot right-wing fascism - what sort of privacy laws do we want in place to fight such oppression. Would we wish for freedom of protest, the right to trial by jury, presumption of innocence. I think so.
I think if we happened to be moving towards a more authoritarian form of society the bast way of providing for that change would be to put the infrastructure of laws unceremoniously into place, Fabian style, that such a society would need BEFORE starting with the nastiness of outright oppression. Once the control mechanisms of tyranny are in place then the only task that remains to instigate the tyranny itself - like a switch.
Any if we want to protect ourselves from the likelihood of that ever being able to occur the simple step is to ensure the control mechanisms, suitable for the sustainment of tyrannical, oppressive authoritarian state, are never allowed to be put into place.
This is inevitable. There's just little thing that we can do against these giants but either to take it or just leave it.
Hi ptables. I understand the feeling that there is little we can do to fight the 'state', its direction and the changes we do not like but as it happens it is only a 'feeling'. It is all in the head.
When I was a lad on the bus to school every day two ugly lads from the year above would endlessly have a go at me - generally cracking me on the head from behind with their knuckles. One day I snapped, I caught one of these lads arm, twisted it to the limit and held it there for as long as it took. Now sure I was physically fighting back but what had really changed that day was I stopped believing in their power - they knew it and I knew it. I never had any trouble from them again.
My problem before was not that they could oppress me but that, until that moment, I acquiesced to it.
That is why I write like this where ever I can. I am more interested in communicating to folk as the occasion arises than going onto some political-rant blog where all I will do is talk to people like myself. That may help me get my head straight but it does not spread the 'seeds of change'.
One: I do not believe we should self-suppress/police our opinions. We do still live in a free/open society and we must make use of that freedom of expression. We suppress our own freedom of expression far more than any law has effect upon. And two: I do not think it is healthy to be defeatist. I don't think it is healthy for our own sense of who's life and world we are living in and I think it sends the wrong message to others along with whoever so else may be interested in what is being expressed.