Buisness Hub 3 & BT2700hgv

[munga42]

All,

I am looking to extend the wireless range of the BH3 and was wanting to use an old 2wire BT2700hgv. Can this be done? If so how should I configure the routers?

Many thanks

[MHC]

My remote 2700s acting as WAPs, do NOT appear on the master 2700s list of devices either.   That may be because of one of two reasons - firstly outside the allocatable DHCP range, but probably not as I have other devices with fixed addresses and they appear, the second reason may be because it is a switch/part of the network rather than a terminal device - mg Gigabit switches do not appear either.

However,   I can access each WAPs interface from anywhere; including via a second WAP.

The main reason I suggest an IP address outside the DHCP range is to ensure there is no clash - if it is in te range and turned off, another device could be allocated the address and when the 2700 is turned on it will cause an address clash.

[whiller123]

@MHC

You are right about that I am sure & it is wise to allocate an address to the AP that the router can not issue to some thing else, I will do that in future

I have noticed though having run a 2701 at a pub for eighteen months that it never ever issues the same address to another device once a device has already been issued with it. I have about 150 devices coming & going there & they always get the same address.

I guess though if it ever ran out of addresses it would start to re-issue

Rob

[MHC]

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@whiller123 wrote:

@MHC

You are right about that I am sure & it is wise to allocate an address to the AP that the router can not issue to some thing else, I will do that in future

I have noticed though having run a 2701 at a pub for eighteen months that it never ever issues the same address to another device once a device has already been issued with it. I have about 150 devices coming & going there & they always get the same address.

I guess though if it ever ran out of addresses it would start to re-issue

Rob

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They will get the same address if te DHCP lease has not expired - if you really did monitor closely you might find that once te DHCP lease expires (which for regulars may never happen) then a new device could be allocated that IP address.

[whiller123]

@MHC

It is because I have to monitor this so closely that I have noticed this, There are only 15 devices in the device list this morning out of 153 registered & 7 of them live on-site. The lease time is set to default  I visited site yesterday my windows, Mac & android device all got their regular addresses allocated I have not been in there for over a month. I keep a copy of every device details in a word document showing Device name, Mac address IP address, content screening group & owners full name. the IP addresses never changes. What you say makes perfect sense but it does not work like that for some reason. All logs checked morning & night

There are 5 regulars with devices that can't go 24 hours without going in the pub so you are right there too

I have another site with 4 computers on a BH3 all DHCP all use VNC to each other by IP address shared folders, printers etc IP addresses never change there either, even after their 2 week summer shut down. They have run like this for 4 years or more originally on a 2700 they have never had a problem

Rob

[Engineer]

whiller123

Rob

The BT hubs will always re issue the same IP address to a device unless that IP address is unavailable despite the expiration of the lease. The exception to this is if all available addresses have been taken when connecting a new device it will then re-cycle expired lease addresses.

PM

[whiller123]

@Engineer

Hi Dave

Got your private message & replied,

Today I am being thick! I thought when you signed your previous post PM  you were maybe David Cameron, its my age you know!

Yea it appears right about the addresses I find exactly that. What MHC says though about the lease makes perfect sense, I have looked at some of his (or her) other posts & he is always spot on the numbers. I may restrict the number of available addresses to test the theory!

Ah no life is to short! if it works it works. Lets move on!

Rob

[MHC]

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@whiller123 wrote:

... What MHC says though about the lease makes perfect sense, I have looked at some of his (or her) other posts & he is always spot on the numbers.

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I'm a he ...

Playing around one day,  I managed to a master 2700 connected vioa Ethernet to 4 further devices.   Then one of those to four more and one of those to a variety of Thmson, 2wire, Netgear and DLink devices   all running as WAPs.

It is just a case of making sure the addresses are correct and in the right block.

[whiller123]

@MHC

Sorry trying to be politically correct & not sexist Your point is noted with dignity.

I am fairly inexperienced with the 2wire but have noticed some quirks. & am learning fast, never to old to learn & **bleep** I have some learning to do. You seem very knowledgeable about this stuff & I note all you posts with interest

Hope my posts did not offend as this is not my intention  I just wish to share what I have learned.

Rob

For the record the word that the system has shown as **bleep** was nothing more than a big wall that holds back water!

[MHC]

Not offended and I know why you put it there ...

There is a good resource for the 2700 at:

http://bt2700hgv.tripod.com/ir1002700HGV.htm

Some relevant, some not,  but it tells the story from start to finish.

There are quite a few bits of info there that originated from me.

[whiller123]

@MHC

That is OK then

There is interesting stuff on there I have been there before when I needed to use the Hub with a different ISP

Rob